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Postby john » Sun May 13, 2007 9:52 am

good question?
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Postby Heidi » Sun May 13, 2007 10:07 am

and why name it that unless loads of soldiers came from here
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Postby john » Sun May 13, 2007 10:58 am

The village of Spion Kop near Mansfield, Nottinghamshire was named in honour of the battle.
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Postby Heidi » Sun May 13, 2007 11:25 am

yea but why
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Postby La Fiama » Sun May 13, 2007 11:25 am

The houses along Mansfield road look like the oldest type of house in Spion Kop.

Where they built for the near by Nettleworth Manor for the people who worked on the farm.
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Postby whitevanman » Fri May 18, 2007 9:30 pm

Found a bit of info today about Spion Kop.

The origional two houses were the old garage and an identical one on the the hill (Mosscar Close), this one has now gone and a bungalow is in it's place. These first two houses were built in the late 1700's, the area then did not have a name.

The row of terrace houses were next in 1915 and this is when it was named Spion Kop. I still don't know who they were built for or why.

Wood Brothers factory was built just after the war in late 40's or early 50's so the houses were not for that purpose.

An early map shows a Mosscar Lane, this run in between Vic Peggs bungalow and Alan Wood's house
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Postby La Fiama » Fri May 18, 2007 10:26 pm

Thanks for that info Whitey, it would be great to find out why the houses were built, I am sure the answer lies deep in the archives of the former Warsop Urban District Council, as they must have given planning permission
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Postby Caz » Sat May 19, 2007 11:08 pm

Spion Kop was named in memory of the Battle of Spion Kop, which took place in South Africa during the Boer War and was led by Sir John Talbot Coke of Mansfield Woodhouse.
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Postby whitevanman » Mon May 21, 2007 11:42 am

So that's the connection.
I knew it was named after the battle, but could not find any local connection for it to be called that. I came across the name but it did not mention he was from this area.
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Postby Caz » Mon May 21, 2007 12:47 pm

This is a question that I've answered many times by e.mail. I get loads of mail coming through Warsop Web with questions about Spion Kop as well as Welbeck Abbey, so I've had to do a bit of research. Apparently, John Talbot Coke owned the land around Spion Kop.

There you go, I'm full of useless bits of information! :lol:
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Postby jilli » Mon May 21, 2007 1:35 pm

[quote="Caz"]This is a question that I've answered many times by e.mail. I get loads of mail coming through Warsop Web with questions about Spion Kop as well as Welbeck Abbey, so I've had to do a bit of research. Apparently, John Talbot Coke owned the land around Spion Kop.

There you go, I'm full of useless bits of information! :lol:[/quote]

Does that make eating difficult then Caz? :lol:
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Postby legz » Mon May 21, 2007 9:53 pm

The sign says Mosscar Close but the locals call it George Street.

Which ones right?
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Postby jilli » Mon May 21, 2007 9:57 pm

I think it used to be George Street, but the name was changed as mail was getting mixed up with the George Street at Warsop
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Postby Tomas Drouty » Mon May 21, 2007 9:58 pm

It is Mosscar Close but it was formerly called George Street.

Before I knew what the word formerly meant I wondered why so many streets in Warsop were called Formerly this or that.
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