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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:52 am
by john
good question?

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:07 am
by Heidi
and why name it that unless loads of soldiers came from here

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:58 am
by john
The village of Spion Kop near Mansfield, Nottinghamshire was named in honour of the battle.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:25 am
by Heidi
yea but why

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:25 am
by La Fiama
The houses along Mansfield road look like the oldest type of house in Spion Kop.

Where they built for the near by Nettleworth Manor for the people who worked on the farm.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:17 pm
by john

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:30 pm
by whitevanman
Found a bit of info today about Spion Kop.

The origional two houses were the old garage and an identical one on the the hill (Mosscar Close), this one has now gone and a bungalow is in it's place. These first two houses were built in the late 1700's, the area then did not have a name.

The row of terrace houses were next in 1915 and this is when it was named Spion Kop. I still don't know who they were built for or why.

Wood Brothers factory was built just after the war in late 40's or early 50's so the houses were not for that purpose.

An early map shows a Mosscar Lane, this run in between Vic Peggs bungalow and Alan Wood's house

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:26 pm
by La Fiama
Thanks for that info Whitey, it would be great to find out why the houses were built, I am sure the answer lies deep in the archives of the former Warsop Urban District Council, as they must have given planning permission

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:08 pm
by Caz
Spion Kop was named in memory of the Battle of Spion Kop, which took place in South Africa during the Boer War and was led by Sir John Talbot Coke of Mansfield Woodhouse.

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:42 am
by whitevanman
So that's the connection.
I knew it was named after the battle, but could not find any local connection for it to be called that. I came across the name but it did not mention he was from this area.

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:47 pm
by Caz
This is a question that I've answered many times by e.mail. I get loads of mail coming through Warsop Web with questions about Spion Kop as well as Welbeck Abbey, so I've had to do a bit of research. Apparently, John Talbot Coke owned the land around Spion Kop.

There you go, I'm full of useless bits of information! :lol:

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:35 pm
by jilli
[quote="Caz"]This is a question that I've answered many times by e.mail. I get loads of mail coming through Warsop Web with questions about Spion Kop as well as Welbeck Abbey, so I've had to do a bit of research. Apparently, John Talbot Coke owned the land around Spion Kop.

There you go, I'm full of useless bits of information! :lol:[/quote]

Does that make eating difficult then Caz? :lol:

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:53 pm
by legz
The sign says Mosscar Close but the locals call it George Street.

Which ones right?

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:57 pm
by jilli
I think it used to be George Street, but the name was changed as mail was getting mixed up with the George Street at Warsop

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:58 pm
by Tomas Drouty
It is Mosscar Close but it was formerly called George Street.

Before I knew what the word formerly meant I wondered why so many streets in Warsop were called Formerly this or that.